For John Hughes, winning is an irrelevance in the Learning Disability Super League, a project aimed at transforming the lives of people with learning disabilities.
John is the instigator of the project, launched at Anfield during May's Super League Magic Weekend, in which players with learning disabilities and autism represent their individual Super League clubs and wear their team's official colours.
"It makes them feel like Super League stars but we don't say one team won 56-4, that's not relevant," John explains. "It's similar to masters rugby in that, at the end of games, it's called a draw. That's the same with this."